Bro. Imran of IREF answered

AnswersWhile preparing for the debate, Jerry Thomas read Bro. Imran (Founder President, IREF) book “Calling to Islam”. Jerry Thomas decided to answer the questions Bro. Imran raised in the presentation itself. However, questions which were out of the scope of debate are dwelt here. Most of the answers can be found in other excellent Christian websites


1. Who wrote Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? 

 

Answer: Read the following link Gospel Dates, Gospel Authors, Gospels Freedoms http://www.tektonics.org/ntdocdef/gospdefhub.html 

 

Question to Bro. Imran: Who wrote the Surahs of Quran?  Each of the Suras start with “In the name of Allah…. except Sura 9.” If Allah was revealing it, then it should have been “In My name” or “I, Allah” etc. If only a third person is writing, he/she needs to start like this. Therefore it is obvious that Allah did not write or dictate it. Please do let us know the author of the Quran. We have some valuable suggestions to give. 

 

2. Bible “Contradictions” Cleared 

 

  1. Matthew 27:32, Mark 15:21, 22, Luke 23:26 contradict John 19:17, who carried cross?
  2. Did Jesus die before (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark 15:37-38), or after (Luke 23:45-46) the curtain of the temple was torn?
  3. Mark 15:2 contradicts John 19:14-16 (What was the crucifixion time?)
  4. Matthew 27:44, Mark 15:32 contradicts Luke 23: 39, 40 (How many robbers reviled Christ?
  5. Mathew 27: 46-52, Mark 15:34-38 contradicts Luke 23: 45-46 (When did Christ cry in rain- before or after curtains fell?

 Answers: For all of the above 5 questions, refer 101 Cleared Contradictions in http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm  Where is the Gospel of Jesus? This is an Islamic confusion based on Surah 19: 30. One-day old Jesus spoke in the Quran and he said he came with the book. “He said: Surely I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet”. 

 

Challenge to Imran: What happened to the Book that Jesus came along with? Please show us that please…  

 

3. John 17: 12 contradict John 18:19

 

(How man disciples did Jesus lose?) Please give the correct reference first. 

 

4. Matthew 27: 55, 56, Mark 15:40, 41 Luke 23: 39, 40 contradicts John 19:25 (How far were the women from the cross? Was Mother Mary present at the cross? 

 

 The account is not about statues installed but woman standing. They can move from one place to another. In fact, they did exactly that.  

 

5. Matthew 27: 59, 60, Mark 15:45, 46, Luke 23:53 contradict John 19: 38-42 who really took the procession of Jesus’ body? 

 

 

Matthew 27: 59, 60 “Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away”

 

Mark 15: 45, 46 when he learned from the centurion that it was so, he gave the body to Joseph. So Joseph bought some linen cloth, took down the body, wrapped it in the linen, and placed it in a tomb cut out of rock. Then he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb. 

 

Luke 23: 50- 54 Now there was a man named Joseph, a member of the Council, a good and upright man, who had not consented to their decision and action. He came from the Judean town of Arimathea and he was waiting for the kingdom of God. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body. Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen cloth and placed it in a tomb cut in the rock, one in which no one had yet been laid. It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin. 

 

John 19: 38-42 “Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away. He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus br

ought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds. Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs. At the place where Jesus was crucified, there was a garden, and in the garden a new tomb, in which no one had ever been laid. Because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and since the tomb was nearby, they laid Jesus there. 

 

6. Hate father, mother, otherwise cannot be Christ’s disciple? Luke 14:26 

 

Answer: Read in http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesussayshate.html 

 

7. Jesus never addressed his Mother as Mother but Woman John 2:4 

 

Answer: Read in http://www.tektonics.org/gk/jesusrudemom.html 

 

8. First miracle of Jesus in Bible is that he converted water into wine (purity into impurity) John 2:8-10 

 

Answer: LORD GOD Jesus is not under your Quran. Within the Biblical principle there is nothing wrong in this. If your Quran gives any other principle then it is your problem and not ours.  Muhammad sahab used to drink. Was he impure? Sahih Muslim: Book 023, Number 4974: (The Book of Drinks).Ibn Abbas reported that Nabidh was prepared from raisins for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) in the water skin and he would drink it on that day and on the next day and the day following and when It was the evening of the third day, and he would drink it and give it to (his Companions) and if something was left over, he threw that away. 

 

9. Jesus commands to slay enemies who do not allow to rein over them (Luke 19:27) 

 

Answer: This is about the final judgment day. Of course, on that everyone who has not accepted Jesus Christ will be throne into hell of fire. So repent and fall at the feet of Jesus. 

 

10. Jesus says that he has come to spread sword (Matthew 10:34, Luke 12:51-53)

 

 Answer: "The context of Micah 7:6 cited here, describes the awful evils in the land and the untrustworthiness of even the closest relatives and friends that would continue until the Lord would come to vindicate those who hoped in him. Given the belief held by many Jewish people that a time of sufferings would precede the end, the disciples would probably have understood this saying as suggesting that they were already experiencing the sufferings of that time…Jesus here expounds on the text just cited (Mic 7:6) to make a point virtually inconceivable to most of his hearers. Loving family members, especially parents, was one of the highest duties in Judaism;  The only one who could rightfully demand greater love was God himself (Deut 6:4–5; cf. Deut 13:6–11). Source: http://www.tektonics.org 

 

11. Christianity is used only for three times (Acts 11:26, 26:28, 1st Peter 4:16): Bible also used the word bastard only 3 times (Deuteronomy 23:2, Zechariah 9:6, Hebrews 12:8). 

 

Answer: The Hebrew word can be translated as foreigner or illegitimate child. Other translations render the word as "illegitimate child" or even "foreigner" in the case of Zechariah. Note that the word "bastard" originally meant "illegitimate child" or "child born outside of wedlock." So this is only a figment of your mind. And the state of your mind is clear from these misrepresentations. 

 

12. Trinity appears in Surah Nisa 4:171 but never in the Bible. 

 

Answer: Don’t bluff. The word trinity is not there in Quran. Read Shakir’s translation you will know that Yusuf Ali is intentionally bluffing. But why did you say this? As a Muslim, you should know Arabic by yourself.    

 

13. The closest verse appears in 1st John 5:7 but has been removed. 

 

Answer: This does not affect the doctrine anyway. The doctrine of Trinity has been already established in the prophetical books. For example, see Isaiah 48:12-16. 

 

14. Where is the word Trinity mentioned in the Bible? 

 

Answer: Where is the word Towheed mentioned in the Quran? 

 

15. Give Jesus Christ’s one unequivocal statement where Christ, Father is the First Person of Trinity. Give Jesus Christ’s one unequivocal statement where Christ, I am the second person of Trinity. Give Jesus Christ’s one unequivocal statement where Christ, Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity.

 

Answer: Give one unequivocal statement in the Quran where it refers to three classifications of Towheed.  

 

16. Where does the Bible claim, Bible is the Word of God? Answer:

 

Unlike Quran which is a mixture of Satan’s words (Surah 17, 22 and 53), all words are inspired from Holy Spirit. 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. 

 

Biblia is the plural form of the Greek biblion, which is itself a diminutive of biblos. These terms are used in Scripture as designations for inspired writings:  "And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book (en to biblio touto)." John 20:30 NKJV  

 

"For it is written in the Book (biblo) of Psalms…" Acts 1:20 NKJV  "Then God turned and gave them up to worship the host of heaven, as it is written in the book of the Prophets (en biblo ton propheton)…" Acts 7:42 NKJV  

 

"For as many as are of the works of the law are under curse; for it is written, `Cursed is everyone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law (en to biblio tou nomou), to do them" Gal. 3:10 NKJV 

 

"When you come, bring the cloak I left at Troas with Carpus, and the books (kai ta biblia), especially the parchments (malista tas membranas)." 2 Tim. 4:13

 

"I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, "What you see, write in a book (graphon eis biblion) and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia…" Rev. 1:10-11  

 

"For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book (tes propheteias tou bibliou): If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book (en tou biblio); and if anyone takes away words of the book of this prophecy (tou bibliou tes propheteias), God shall take away his part from the Tree of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book (en to biblio touto)." Rev. 22:18-19. 

 

17. If one wants to become a Christian which Bible he/she should read? 

 

Answer: "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Luke 24:44 KJV Thirty nine books are included in these three divisions. Any book that falls outside these division is not acceptable to a Christian.  However, which Quran should we read? Ubayy b. Kabb, called the Master of the Quranic reciters, had 116 chapters in his text of the Quran; while others such as Abdallah Ibn Masud included only 111 out of the present 114 chapters of the Islamic text. Can you show me a single reference in any Quran how many chapters it has? 

18. Scientific Comparison between The Holy Bible and Quran. 

 

Answer: Bro. Imran is merely copying Dr. Zakir Naik. All the points of Dr. Zakir has been answered by our dear Brother Sam Shamoun of Answering Islam. Please visit this site and see the answers and excellent resources for other topics related to Islam. http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Naik/biblecontras.htm 

 

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  1. Dear brother,thomas i congratulated to you , and i thak full to our heavenly father. few years on wards imran insulating the BIBLE and word of good. i am praying last year on wards to close the imran mouth .really i am very happy my prayer was answared i am a small man i dont know english i can not speek english. but i clearly unstand wht you are speeking . thanking you,

    and god bless you.

  2. We were praying for the debate and we praise God for having helped you to trounce satan.

  3. suggestionsto mr.Jerry.

    First you learn ARABIC..

    Second, Debate shud belike a debate.. not to shout..

    people who r on wrong way only shout

  4. Jerry in his debate with Bro. Imran said “i do not worship the creation”, so do u mean to say that Jesus is uncreated, :grin , and John 5:30 Jesus says, “I can of mine ownself do nuthing”, is this the quality of God, that he can’t do any thing by himself, further, when bro. Imran asked Where is the word Trinity mentioned in the Bible? you again questioned Bro Imran, where is the word Towheed mentioned in the Quran?, i would like to remind jerry that the answer for the question is not again question, first you should show the word trinity in the bible and then question bro. Imran, and further more you blasphemed by saying that the word trinity is not in the Quran, Yes it is there in Surah 4:171 arabic word is ‘salasa’ meaning Trinity problem with you is you dont know arabic, first research then speak..from nxt time..hope you will not do that again…

  5. By the help of the Holy Spirit God, excellent defencive and thought provoking answers provided by the Jerry Thomas.

    God Bles you

  6. i was there when the debate took place .before that i have asked imran to clear my doubt regarding few things which was posted about christianity but he diverted the topic and insulted me and asked me to come and see how imran will take jerry.

    1:i appreciate jerry for standing on point and trapping him with many questions which he didnt answered

    2.i praise GOD for giving peace and self control to jerry for not being very local and cheap like imran by insulting personanely

    i belive every muslim who have been there may think for once IS THIS DEBATE? imran behaviour was very bad .i think he did not brought his debate papers with him that was the reason which made him wasting time to insult jerry and others.

    when imran started to play circus a gud muslim were waling out and after jerry gave gud answer christians didnt sat there but left when imran started to scream.

    bro.jerry i think debating a person like imran is not gud .he is a terrorist .we prayed for u verey well coz if a person can attack some one personnaly on stage then how much he can do bad under viel.

    his questions were answered in many sites and i think imran didnt watched that but copied that one and made fun of himself.

    BRO .JERRY WON THE DEBATE WITH LOVE AND TRUTH .

    BRO IMARAN LOSS THE DEBATE COZ OF IMMATURITY AND POOR PERFORMANCE.

    god bless :zzz 8) :grin

  7. Dear IMRAN bhi,

    You told that jery was very stiif and serious in his presentation.u r right,but why he did like that, he came to prove DIVINITY OF JESUS but not for entertainig people by telling TOM & JERRY stories, maths equations, mimicries.Please note that there are different stages are there for those things, please try there, not here my dear.

  8. Jerry:

    I feel very elated after your clinical and professional execution of God’s mighty word. You have the taken the very ground from the heels of Imran.

    Imran should sit at home with his kids and watch Cartoon Network more.

    Jerry might be a small insignificant being. But he has the promise of Lord which says “the weak shall be made strong” Amen.

    Let the name of the Almighty God and our Saviour JESUS CHRIST name be blessed.

  9. I’m really greatful to u about ur answers to Mr.Imran.

    I attended so many meeting which was conducted by

    Mr.Imran and observed that he not having the proper vision for his debate. Imran vision clear that he wants get good name and money in their society with criticize the bible and pasters.

    Mr. J.Thomas is the correct person who won the debate on Mr.Imran on 10.05.08. i thought that hereafter he never challenge with anybody on bible. :grin

    My muslim friend converted into the christian after that debate.

    Regards, Ravi Kuamr

  10. Dear nizamkhan, you are correct. Jesus Christ was not created. He was God incarnated in human form.

    If everything said against Quran is blasphemy, why in the first place did you invite bro.Jerry for a debate.

    You should be wise enough to understand bro.Jerry answer.His answer was in the question itself.I feel very sorry that a learned Islamic scholar could not understand a cartoon character. Even children understand cartoons.

    The word Trinity is nowhere to be found in the Bible. It is coined just to indicate a Biblical concept. In the same way the words evangelism, Lords table, rapture are coined to represent the ideas given in the Bible. Just because a vocabulary used by the Christians is absent in the Bible, you cannot say that its synonym is absent in the Bible. :grin

  11. Dear all, there is no use of debating/arguing or dominating the religions its a bottom line conclusion that is JESUS CHRIST IS GOING TO COME VERY SOON…. See, he comes with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those by whom he was wounded; and all the tribes of the earth will be sorrowing because of him. Yes, so be it.

    I am the First and the Last, says the Lord God who is and was and is to come, the Ruler of all. rev 1:7

  12. See, he comes with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those by whom he was wounded; and all the tribes of the earth will be sorrowing because of him. Yes, so be it.

    1:8 I am the First and the Last, says the Lord God who is and was and is to come, the Ruler of all. REV-1:7&8

  13. I think we should start praying for Mr.Imran because he might be researching who the real creator is but is still refusing to accept the answer. I think the only thing which was left for him was to cheer the fanatical spirits in the crowd inorder to save his skin and the others who have been misleading crores into Hell.

    Praise God for you Jerry, You kept your cool and yet adomantly preached the truth. We need more people who can stand up and blow the weak foundations of the devil.

  14. MOHAMMED HAFEEZUDDIN and other muslim brothers need to understand that supporting a man who dont even respect his opponent on stage cannot be a mature guy.

    1: it is true that the word trinity is not in bible but the concept is there .if u dont belive it just coz it is not written then u need to throw ur quran too out coz quran doesnt use the word trinity and also never critize the biblical concept of trinity.

    2: jerry came with prayer to present jesus as divine so he was focused on topic but imran came to stage to tell us how he enjoyed last night TOM AND JERRY show.

    3.bro.jerry in his first presentation thrown many questions but he didnt answerd a single one.

    4:bro.imran said ,islam is the only religion which make beliving jesus as article of faith.he just copied zakir naik statement but for HIS kind information ,even bahaism asks their followers to belive in jesus and also in muhamamd too but does that mean bahaism a true religion noooo.muhamamd raised jesus coz he want to convert christians when they refused the false prophet he commanded to kill him thats why we read good words and bad words about christianity.

    5:muslim brethrens need to understand that by unsulting speakers or religion will never give gud sign to christians .do u think the way imran did will drag atleast one christian to islamic cult ? when imran stood in rebuttle screaming i saw many christians as group left out.

    let us do everything with love and peace ,so that people who come from very far will not be fooled.

    jesus the greatest amen

  15. Dear Christians, If you believe God has incarnated in the form of Jesus, then why don’t you believe Buddha, Mahavir Jain, Guru nanak, Rama, Krishna etc as the other forms of GOD’s Incarnation, Why do you want to convert others. GOD can be incarnated in several forms. If NOT then you people are Hypocrite.

  16. Dear Brother Jerry Thomas,

    God bless you for doing well in this debate. My sincere prayer is that God will open the eyes of all those who have witnessed the debate to follow the Truth and refrain from falsehood. Mr. Imran should read the Holy Bible to get the answers from it. My prayer is that God will open the eyes of Mr. Imran.

    Thanks,

    David.

  17. This is one of the most outstanding Debates i have witnessed where the heresies were openly defaced by God’s Chosen Instrument Bro Jerry Thomas, whom God has used Mightly to take on Bro.Imran..and expalin abt Divinity of Jesus Christ.. I was present at the venue ..when Bro Jerry has ripped of Bro Imran with his clever presentation of the Word of God..Mr.Imran did not have any answers and could only resort to Personal Insults and Narrating TOM and Jeerry Stories..Unlike Mr.Thomas who confined himself in Explaining the Truth. Mr. Imran’s Question abt Trinity is already answered in Matthew 20.28 where Jesus Himself asks the Disciples to Baptize everyone in the “Name” of the Father,Son and the Holy Ghost, so here though there are 3 persons yet we speak abt only one “Name”.Secondly Bro Imran’s Explanationa abt the BODMAS Rule …when u say that there are 50000 corrections in the BIBLE ..may i ask u to what are u comparing it to say that they are wrong …if u think that 1+1+1=2, and BODMAS does not follow what u think u cannot conclude that BODMAS is wrong that appaarently is what u concluded that day when u said that some article says that they are corrections to be made in the Bible …and when he says that he cannot understand the Bible ..ur Right …GOD is Incomprehensible u & I cannot understand God Completely ,hence if u cannot understand God that does mot mean God Ceases to be God ..Jesus is the Saviour of the World whether u accpet it or not….Bro Jerry May God use u mightly in the days to come to deface the Hereisies and Bring many souls to christ..May God Keep u in the Shelter of his wings.

  18. Brother Imran Answered all the questions posed by Jerry openly in front of the audience. But jerry didn’t answer any questions and instead gave a document to Imran saying all the answers are there in the document which is misleading the audience. If Jerry really had answers to the questions he would have answered before every one. To hide the truth from every one he gave a document so that audience would think that he had really answered which is genuine bluffing. And my sincere request to Jerry is “IF YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF ARABIC THEN PLEASE LEARN. ARABIC IS NOT LIKE ARAMIC WHICH CAN BE MISQUOTED LIKE YOU DID WITH BIBLE”

  19. Mr Ilyas Ahamad, its a great wonder and quite difficult to take to heart what our muslim brothers like you continue to say. Arent you exposing the deception in yourself, addin to the credibility and evidence of christian brothers who are exposing the lies of muslim scholars.

    Now you also have joined along with your scholars in deceiving. isnt the truth open to all in this website itself. the transcript is all published for everyone to check what happened on that day. when I read, i see brother Jerry has answered mostly all questions defending this faith, His God, His Jesus, whereas Imran not only failed to present a strong case, but also did nothing to defend His Allah, His Prophet and also lied throughout his presentation. And now by trying to defend Imran, you are only proving the deception in youself, brother!!!

    Its very sad to see people like you who have been mislead , and who cant come out of it, because your herat winces in pain to realise that what you had been believeing to be true wasnt true after all

    Come to think of it:

    1. Allah of the Quran teaches, practices and allows a truth that even includes lies and deception, whereas God of the Bible teaches and allows only pure truth and truth only.

    2. Allah of the Quran teaches and allows peace that includes outright violence, whereas God of the Bible teaches and allows only pure peace, a peace that includes no violence at all.

    3. Allah of the Quran allows exceptions to his commandments to a selected few, whereas God of the Bible teaches lawas and commandments for everyone equally, whether one is a prophet or a rich or a poor man, His laws are equally applicable to one and all.

    4. Allah of the Quran promises carnal pleasures to His followers whereas God of the Bible promises eternal life to His children.

    And many more………….

  20. iam disoppointed with the behaviour of Imran,But Jerry dont be Proud,If u Really want to Win Debate than Debate with Dr.Zakir Nayek or with his Student Br.AsifUddin they have Knowledge,Respect and they are the right person,Not Like Imran,He just work for Name and Money,Not for God.

  21. Dear Faiz,

    There was a debate held between Bro. Jerry and Bro. Asifuddin on the topic Sin and Salvation in Christianity and Islam. The VCDs were on sale on May 10, 2008. If you would like to buy a copy of it, please do mail us at mail@sakshitimes.com and we will arrange that to be handover to you.

    God bless

    Sakshi Team

  22. ONLY THE BOOK OF HOLY QURAN IN IS MEMORISED IN MILLIONS OF MUSLIME HEARTS CAN CHRISTIAN PRODUCE A SINGLE PERSON WHO MEMORISE BIBLE. THIS THING IS PROVES THAT ONLY QURAN IS THE ALLAH;S (GOD)WORD AND ISLAM IS THE ONLY ACCEPTED RELISION IN FRONT OF ALLAH.

  23. ONLY THE BOOK OF HOLY QURAN IN IS MEMORISED IN MILLIONS OF MUSLIME HEARTS

    What a liar you are.

    CAN CHRISTIAN PRODUCE A SINGLE PERSON WHOMEMORISE BIBLE

    Ans yes many, total 66 books bible I know a man name Sabu John, in kerala who has memorized 66 books of the bible not just one book quran.

    Any ways farooq Jesus is my savior and your.

    I hope some day you read the bible, I dont want you to memorize it. Bcos it will sound like parrot speaking. Just memorising a book proves that your ego is great. But only understanding it makes a difference. I want to know how many millions muslim really understand quran. And I bet the day even you understand and reason quran. You will come to Christ.

    May Jesus guide you.

  24. ONLY THE BOOK OF HOLY QURAN IN IS MEMORISED IN MILLIONS OF MUSLIME HEARTS

    What a liar you are just like imran zakir.

    Law Books, medical books, computer application books, The Hindu vedas, puranas. The Bible, The Zoroastrian Avestas. These material and spiritual knowledge books are memorized by million people around the world.

    CAN CHRISTIAN PRODUCE A SINGLE PERSON WHO MEMORISE BIBLE.

    I know many who have memorized the bible.

    Among them is Bro. Sabu John from kerala. Who has not only memorized but also understood the legacy of God (Yehovah)love for man.

    THIS THING IS PROVES THAT ONLY QURAN IS THE ALLAH;S (GOD)WORD AND ISLAM IS THE ONLY ACCEPTED RELISION IN FRONT OF ALLAH.

    my dear brother Farooq, i really dont understand what you want to prove. There are many who memorize a lot of thing without understanding. We call them parrots. I hope you are not one of them.

    If you have memorized the quran. I request you not to memorize the bible but at least read and understand it.

    Any ways if you have read n understood the Bible and quran. You will not worship the black stone and leave the Muhammadan cult.

    May Lord Jesus Guide you.

  25. BISMILLAH

    ASSALAMALIKUM BRO I WANT TOO ASK MY CHRISTIAN BRO THAT WHERE JESUS SAID IAM GOD WORSHIP ME THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR ALL CHIRSTIAN TO SHOW VERSE FROM THE BIBLE THIS IS A LIFE TIME CHALLENGE FOR U ALL INCLUDING SCHOLARS.

    • Mohammed Abdul Adhad I give u LIFE time CHALLENGE to you and your alla ARABIC triners ….which verse or wich quran says cut the PENIS (male genital organ) and circumcise????? why muslims offer blood of penis to allah god by shouting BISMILHAI????why allah god like blood of penies????show one verse in quran allah said offer blood of penis to allah by shouting BISMILHAI

  26. BRO I WANT TOO ASK MY CHRISTIAN BRO THAT WHERE JESUS SAID IAM GOD WORSHIP ME

    Dear Bro. I challenge you to give me one verse from the bible where in direct statement Jesus said He is not God and Do not worship Him.

    Please provide us again the same from your quran.

  27. I really dont know about debate but I can surely say that, what mr.jerry is replied for thowheed and the non existence of the word trinity in quran is biggest lie, definately he is lieing or he is ignorant of quran.

    Ahad means ONE (Towheed)

    Salasa means Trinity

    Sir with due respect I know that you are bluffing people to entertain or ignorant

    People are not fools.

  28. Mr Jerry Thomas and the Sakshi Team,

    The question of Mr. Imran was, “Where is trinity mentioned in the bible?”

    Mr. Jerry replied by asking a question, “Where is tawheed mentioned in the Quran?”

    Sorry to say, Mr Jerry’s IQ appears to be below 20 to pose a question again without giving an answer. He was clearly refuted.

    Then Br Imran also rebuffed saying, “Ahad (‘-/) and Waahid (H’-/) are the root words of Tawheed which are mentioned so many times in the Quran, but where is the root word of Trinity in the Bible?”

    Its a pity for the loosers, who dont have an answer to the counter reply given by Br Imran.

  29. If you are satisified with Imran’s answer, that means your IQ is almost nil. The root word for truth and untruth, faithful and unfaithful, belief and unbelief are same. So, showing the root word, means nothing except for people like you. From the same root word, two opposites can come and Bro. Jerry thought audience are wise enough to understand the foolishness of Bro. Imran’s answer- of course you proved him wrong. Bro. Jerry was driving the point that as long as the doctrine of trinity is there, whether the word itself is there or not does not make a difference.

    Sakshi Team

  30. ita nt a point of d respected speakers,,,,bt d authentic source available today in this world. ie,the quran and bible….

    in bible it is said in:

    GOSPEL OF JOHN C-14 V-28 –“MY FATHER(GOD) IS GREATER THAN I”

    GOSPEL OF JOHN C-10 V-28 — “MY FATHER(GOD) IS GREATER THAN ALL”

    GOSPEL OF MATHEW C-12 V-28 –“I CAST OUT DEVILS WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD”

    GOSPEL OF LUKE C-11 V-20 –“I, WITH THE FINGER OF GOD,CAST OUT DEVILS”

    so by d above quotations does your bible say that jesus christ(pbuh) is god?

    ABOUT TOWHEED- if roots words r nt considered then it is mentioned in QURAN IN SURAH IKHLAASS C-112 V-1 which says- “HE IS ALLAH,THE ONE AND ONLY!”

    -is there any verse in the revise standard version BIBLE which says trinity or god is triune??

    -did JESUS(pbuh) followed christianity?

    -did JESUS(pbuh) wrote or told his companions to write d present day bilbe then why are they many scientific errors in it??

    – do u,christians follow the unscientific part??

    plz!! read d BIBLE AND QURAN BY HTEMSELVES…nt to go wid any jerry or imran.

  31. ita nt a point of d respected speakers,,,,bt d authentic source available today in this world. ie,the quran and bible….

    in bible it is said in:

    GOSPEL OF JOHN C-14 V-28 –“MY FATHER(GOD) IS GREATER THAN I”

    GOSPEL OF JOHN C-10 V-28 — “MY FATHER(GOD) IS GREATER THAN ALL”

    GOSPEL OF MATHEW C-12 V-28 –“I CAST OUT DEVILS WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD”

    GOSPEL OF LUKE C-11 V-20 –“I, WITH THE FINGER OF GOD,CAST OUT DEVILS”

    so by d above quotations does your bible say that jesus christ(pbuh) is god?

    ABOUT TOWHEED- if roots words r nt considered then it is mentioned in QURAN IN SURAH IKHLAASS C-112 V-1 which says- “HE IS ALLAH,THE ONE AND ONLY!”

    -is there any verse in the revise standard version BIBLE which says trinity or god is triune??

    -did JESUS(pbuh) followed christianity?

    -did JESUS(pbuh) wrote or told his companions to write d present day bilbe then why are they many scientific errors in it??

    – do u,christians follow the unscientific part??

    plz!! read d BIBLE AND QURAN BY HTEMSELVES…nt to go wid any jerry or imran.

  32. “O the people of the scriptures(jews and christians) come to the understanding between us and u that we worship none but Allah,and we create no partners beside Allah.if they turn away then bear witness that we r muslims”(Quran 3:64)

  33. To Muslim brothers,

    Dont use the old quotes zakir used ,to prove jesus didnt claim divinity…like My father is greater than I etc…that Era is over.all those were answered by great christian apologetics like sam shamoun,james white etc..

    Come to present time..dont just live in the OLD.

    Scientific errors,there were no more.They are already answered too,if not ,then arrange a debate with any reg this topic so that the misconception will be taken away.

    One point to prove Islam is false and not from God.

    Allah Said in Quran that “We send down the Quran and we will guard it”.

    He also said that he revealed Injil to Jesus.did he not guard it?injil came just 600 yrs before Quran.Is Allah unreliable to just guard a book,which he sent before 600 yrs?

    Also in haddith it says,that he sent 124000 prophets and 343 messangers.Do u know that all these prophets and messangers are fools as per Islam,because inorder to accept the Quran,you need to assume that all the messages delivered by these thousands of prophets were corrupted,because there is not a Single book on the face of the earth ,which completely agrees to Quran,where only One author wrote it.

    But the Bible,written by 40 prophets of God,written at different times ,at different places,yet all the books are in complete agreement and harmony,in all the doctrine.This is our reliable God Yahweh.He prohecied in the old testament and he fullfilled in new testament.not Like Allah,who want you to believe that he saved/guarded only the last messangers book. :)

    Now the War is between the 66 books of the God of the Bible that yahweh(TRUE God) sent,and the 1 book Allah(The OLD serpent of the Beginning)(Allah name in Arabic) sent.

  34. I am a Prophet and I have sent by God Al-mighty the Creator of Arabic word allah. When muslim worship a man made or created arabic word Allah there is nothing to prove. Mr Jerry wake up and tell the Imran and Lr. zakir naik to awake from arabic sleep. Allah is arabic word and words are created. So tell them not to worship arabic word which is created But worship the Lord God Almighty .

    Jesus of bible is son of God he told about muslims long ago in luke 17 ; 30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” [36] [e]

    37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.

    He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”.

    Jesus tells it clearly that one person will be taken to the dead body(Mohammad) and muslims are called vultures.

    so they are destined to be with the dead body ahahah so take care.

    WORSHIP THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY THE CREATOR OF ARABIC WORD ALLAH .

    (any debate with me please send me a email)

  35. Once more the foolish attempt of sakshi presented here…I cant understand man, when u people debate with imran U got a chance to reply all his questions but you did’nt properly and writing all blunders in your website now, which imran already mentioned in the debate then you will write this…Imran challenged you to say that BIBLE IS 100% WORD OF GOD..! But you did’nt…Similiarly he had so many challenges like that…you not even opened ur mouth on that..!!I cant understand why u and ur senseless christians says that u performed well…Thats really funny…

  36. Dear Bro.Jerry

    Could you please show any proof where Dr.Zakir Naik had denied having debate with you.

    Regards

    • joker naik only debated with those people who had less knowladge!!!!! why he is not debating now ????he used to debate in 1990s as no one thought muslims will ask thease question and when a christian who know what the bible is Most muslims started hiding in burkha

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