The Challenge of Mubahalah and Tragic Deaths of Muhammad and His Family

Masjid MuhammadMuhammad challenged the Christians for curse prayers – mubahalah – after having theological disputes with them. As per Islamic scholars, those who support lie in mubahalah must die approximately within a year. Muhammad died approximately within a year once again raising serious questions on his claim to be a true prophet of true God, writes Jerry Thomas.


For most of the Muslims, if not all, the challenge of mubahalah is one of the clearest of evidences that Islam is true. The challenge of mubahalah was given by Muhammad in A.D 631 (10 A.H.), when a Christian delegation from Najran visited Muhammad to discuss and debate with him about certain theological disputes. Muhammad’s responses to the questions were unsatisfactory to Christian delegation. As a result, Muhammad challenged Christians to participate in a curse prayer wherein the party which supports falsehood would die and their families would perish. It is interesting to note that time period for this curse to be effective is not mentioned in the Quran but scholars say it usually happens within a year. However, Christians refused to participate in such curse prayers. This incident for most Muslims is one of the clearest evidences that Islam is true.

However, if one objectively looks at the challenge of Mubahalah, discussions preceding the challenge, the Biblical view of the challenge and disastrous incidents that happened to Muhammad and his family, one may have to conclude that the challenge of Mubahalah had disproved the veracity of Islam and its founder.

The challenge of Mubahalah was issued in the year 10.A.H by Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, along with Fatima, Ali, Hasan and Husayn. In the year 11 A.H. both Muhammad and his daughter died. Later, Ali, Hasan and Husayn were murdered by other Muslims.  It was Muhammad who challenged the Christians for the curse prayers. Those who support lie must die approximately within a year, according to Muslim scholars. Muhammad died approximately within a year raising serious questions on his claim to be a true prophet of true God. His family, Fatima, Ali, Hasan and Husayn had terrible and tragic deaths.

However, before we discuss about these incidents, let us begin by looking at the discussions  and examining effectiveness of Muhammad’s responses.

One of the topics that were discussed between the Christian delegation and Muhammad was the divinity of Lord Jesus Christ. If ever there was a complete transcript of the discussion, it is not available to us today. However, the Quranic portion (Surah 3: 1-80) which discusses this event gives us a clue that Muhammad was greatly troubled by questions of the Christian delegation for the following reasons:

1) Muhammad himself had to retreat from his claim that Quran is clear (as claimed for example in Surah 16: 89) and had to admit that many verses of the Quran are unclear.

Surah 3: 7 “He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations – they are the substance of the Book – and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it. None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed.”

In other words, the Christian delegation made Muhammad and thereby the Quran contradict itself. Bro. Sam Shamoun of Answering Islam in his article ‘Muhammad's attempt of damage control: How Sura 3:7 suddenly makes sense’ has extensively discussed this.

2) Explanations which Muhammad gave were already rejected by the Holy Bible 600 years before.

Muhammad’s responses were quite unsatisfactory and unimpressive to any Biblically educated person. For example, Muhammad tried to explain away the importance of the virgin birth of Lord Jesus Christ by saying:

Surah 3:59 “Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is.”

However, the Holy Bible had explained the difference between Adam and Lord Jesus Christ. So, the Christians could not have accepted that argument though it may have impressed some Muslims who were not knowledgeable in the Holy Bible. The following verses from the Holy Bible clearly cite the difference between Adam and Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:45-47 “And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven.

So, the creation of Adam and incarnation of Lord Jesus Christ are very different.

3) The challenge of Mubahalah when the Holy Bible does not permit it

After admitting that all of the Quran is not clear as he previously claimed, and giving an erroneous explanation for the virgin birth of Lord Jesus Christ, Muhammad challenged the Christian delegation for Mubahalah (curse prayers) in the following Quranic verse:

Surah 3: 61 “But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.

This is popularly known as the challenge to the Mubahalah. Islamic sources inform us that Christians refused to participate in Mubahalah. Islamic scholars assume the Christians were afraid to accept the challenge due to the realization that Muhammad was a true prophet. One of the Islamic versions can be found in Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 663.

 However, anyone who has read the Holy Bible can understand that no true Christian can ever participate in a curse prayer like this. The Holy Bible does not allow such curse prayers and hence that could be the reason for their refusal.  

BUT what Muslim scholars do not say is that Muhammad died approximately within a year after this challenge; Hasan, Husayn, Fātima and ‘Alī – four whom Muhammad identified as his family- had tragic deaths. In other words, the curse that Muhammad pronounced though the Christians never said amen to it, returned on him casting yet another doubt on his claim to be a true prophet of the one true God.

Now, let me demonstrate all these from Islamic sources.

1. The Challenge of Mubahalah and Muhammad’s Death:

It is to be noted that Quran does not give any specific timeframe for the curse to be effective. However, commenting on the Bukhari Hadiths, Ibn Hajar al

-Asqalani in his voluminous Fath ul-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari writes: “Some of the benefits of this hadith is that one can do Mubahala with an opponent if he insists after losing the argument…. What is known by experience is that one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its first anniversary.”

Mubahalah happened in 10 AH:

The Islamic website Al Islam writes: “This verse refers to the famous event of ' al-Mubahalah ' which took place in the year 10 A.H against the Christians of Najran. A deputation of 60 Christians of Najran headed by Abdul Masih their chief monk priest came and discussed with the Holy Prophet ( pbuh&f ) the personality of Hazrat Eesa ( as ).”

Muhammad died in 11 AH with incurable pain:

Muhammad died on 11 AH (or AD 9 June 632) with incurable pain. You can check this site to confirm the date http://www.itsislam.net/articles/life_of_Prophet_Muhammad.asp

Not only that Muhammad died approximately in a year, he died a painful death. Read the following hadith.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713: “Narrated Ibn Abbas:

'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to let Ibn Abbas sit beside him, so 'AbdurRahman bin 'Auf said to 'Umar, "We have sons similar to him." 'Umar replied, "(I respect him) because of his status that you know." 'Umar then asked Ibn 'Abbas about the meaning of this Holy Verse:– "When comes the help of Allah and the conquest of Mecca . . ." (110.1)

Ibn 'Abbas replied, "That indicated the death of Allah's Apostle which Allah informed him of." 'Umar said, "I do not understand of it except what you understand."

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."

Point to be noted
: According to Ibn Hajar “what is known by experience is that one who takes part in Mubahalah to support falsehood will not survive its first anniversary” and Muhammad who cursed the Christian delegation died approximately in a year. Does it not raise serious questions on Muhammad's claim be a true prophet even by Islamic criteria?

Not only that Muhammad died in a year, the people he identified as his family also had tragic deaths.

2. The challenge of Mubahalah and tragic deaths of Muhammad’s Family

It is to be noted that Muhammad did not include his surviving wives such as Aishah among his family when he issued the challenge of Mubahalah. Read the following Tafsir to know members who were identified as family of Muhammad.

Al–Jalalayn in his Tafsir for Surah 3:61 writes:

“And whoever, from among the Christians, disputes with you concerning him, after the knowledge, of his affair, that has come to you, say, to them: ‘Come! Let us call our sons and your sons, our wives and your wives, our selves and your selves, and gather them together, then let us humbly pray and invoke God’s curse upon those who lie’, by saying: ‘Lord, curse the one that tells lies concerning the affair of Jesus’. The Prophet (s) had called upon the Najrān delegation to do this when they disputed with him about Jesus. They said, ‘Let us think about it and we will come back to you’. The judicious one among them said, ‘You know that he is a prophet, and that every people that has ever challenged a prophet to a mutual imprecation has been destroyed’. They left him and departed. When they went to see the Prophet (s), who had set out with al-Hasan, al-Husayn, Fātima and ‘Alī, he said to them [the Najrān delegation], ‘When I supplicate, you say ‘Amen’; but they refrained from this mutual imprecation and made peace with the Prophet on the condition that they pay the jizya, as reported by Abū Nu‘aym. According to Ibn ‘Abbās [the Prophet] said, ‘Had they set out and performed the mutual cursing, they would have gone home and found neither possessions nor family’. It is also reported that had they set out with this intention, they would have been consumed by fire.”

So, the family members whom Muhammad identified were:

(a) Fātima, daughter of Muhammad
(b) Ali, husband of Fatima
(c) Hasan, son of Fatima and Ali
(d) Husayn, son of Fatima and Ali

(a) Fātima, daughter of Muhammad, too died in 11 AH

Within six months after the death of Muhammad, Fatima too died. The reason for Fatima’s death are debated between Sunnis who have difficulty in accepting that the ‘second righteous caliph’ Umar caused the death and Shias who argue that it was Umar who violently entered the house of Fatima by breaking the door which fell upon her. This not only aborted her unborn child (she was carrying at that time) but also caused enough injuries which later led to her death.

History of al-Tabari, Volume 9 page 187,  gives us circumstantial evidence that the Shia version is correct.

Although the timing is not clear, it seems that Ali and his group came to know about Saqifa after what had happened there. At this point, his supporters gathered in Fatimah's house. Abu Bakr and Umar, fully aware of Ali's claims and fearing a serious threat from his supporters, summoned him to the mosque to swear the oath of allegiance. Ali refused, and so the house was surrounded by an armed band led by Abu Bakr and Umar, who threatened to set it on fire if Ali and his supporters refused to come out and swear allegiance to Abu Bakr. The scene grew violent and Fatimah was furious. For details see Ansab Ashraf, by al-Baladhuri in his, v1, pp 582-586; Tareekh Ya'qubi, v2, p116; al-Imamah wal-Siyasah, by Ibn Qutaybah, v1, pp 19-20.

Such unruly behavior from two of the ‘righteously guided caliphs’ makes us think that there is more credibility to Shia version.

Irrespective of the reason for Fatima’s death, the fact is that Fatima too died in 11 A.H- a year after the challenge of Mubahalah. Tragic that a young woman should have such a terrible death but we should not forget about the Mubahalah: “Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people” Surah 3:61. Unfortunately Fatima was one of those whom Muhammad included in Mubahalah.

(b) Ali was murdered with a poisonous sword

Since the way in which Ali was killed is accepted by both Shias and Sunnis, I quote the following account from Le

tters to the Imam Blog:

Abdur Rahman bin Muljam carefully worked out his plans to kill Ali. A few other trusted Kharjis also volunteered their services to him, and together they rehearsed the assassination. Abdur Rahman bin Muljam took one extra precaution – he put his sword in deadly poison, and let it soak in it for three days.

On the morning of the 19th of Ramadan of the year 40 A.H., Ali came into the Great Mosque of Kufa, and called Adhan (the call to prayer). He took his place in the alcove, and moments later, the worshippers began to arrive. They stood behind him in serried ranks, and the prayer began. Standing in the front row, with other worshippers, were Abdur Rahman bin Muljam and his confederates. They were watching Ali's movements. In the folds of their cloaks, they were carrying swords burnished to a high sheen, and soaked in poison.

Just when Ali touched the ground with his forehead for sajda, Abdur Rahman bin Muljam stepped out of his row, and crept into the alcove. And just when Ali lifted his head from the ground, ibn Muljam struck the fatal blow at his forehead with such deadly force that it split open.

Blood squirted from Ali's forehead in several jets, and he exclaimed:

"By the Lord of the Kaaba, I am successful!"

The members of the congregation realized what had happened, and as soon as they concluded the prayer, they surrounded him. His sons, Hasan and Husain, carried him to his house. A physician came, and tried to dress the ghastly wound but could not stop the bleeding. The blow of the sword was fatal anyway, but the poison from its blade was also spreading rapidly in his body.

As terrible as it was, we must remember the challenge of Mubahalah – “come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people” Surah 3:61. Unfortunately Ali was one of those four who stood with Muhammad in the challenge of Mubahalah.

(c) Hasan was poisoned by his own wife

Read the following story from the Islamic website www.hadith.net:

“Mu'awiyah's malice against Imam Hasan led him to conspire with the Imam's wife Ja'dah, the daughter of Ash'ath. She was made to give the Imam some poison which affected his liver. Imam Hasan thus succumbed to Mu'awiyah's fatal mischief and attained his martyrdom on 28th Safar 50 AH. His funeral was attended by Imam Husayn and the members of the Hashimite family. His bier while being taken for burial to the Holy Prophet's tomb was shot at with arrows by his enemies, (under direct supervision and consent of 'A'ishah), and it had to be diverted for burial to the Jannatu 'I-Baq;' at Medina. His tomb was demolished along with others on 8th Shawwal 1344 (21st April 1926) by the Saudi rulers when they came to power in.”

Note the Mubahalah – “come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people” Surah 3:61. Unfortunately Hasan was one of those four who stood with Muhammad.

(d) Husayn was beheaded

Read the following from Encyclopedia Britannica on how Husayn was beheaded:

When Yazīd I succeeded his father, Muāwiyah I, to the caliphate in the spring of 680, the many partisans of Muhammad’s late cousin and son-in-law Alī ibn Abī ālib—who collectively felt that leadership of the Muslim community rightly belonged to the descendants of Alī—rose in the city of Al-Kūfah, in what is now Iraq, and invited al-usayn to take refuge with them, promising to have him proclaimed caliph there. Meanwhile, Yazīd, having learned of the rebellious attitude of the Shītes in Al-Kūfah, sent Ubayd Allāh, governor of Al-Barah, to restore order. The latter did so, summoning the chiefs of the tribes, making them responsible for the conduct of their people, and threatening reprisal. Al-usayn nevertheless set out from Mecca with all his family and retainers, expecting to be received with enthusiasm by the citizens of Al-Kūfah. However, on his arrival at Karbalā, west of the Euphrates River, on October 10, he was confronted by a large army of perhaps 4,000 men sent by Ubayd Allāh and under the command of Umar ibn Sad, son of the founder of Al-Kūfah. Al-usayn, whose retinue mustered only 72 fighting men, gave battle, vainly relying on the promised aid from Al-Kūfah, and fell with almost all his family and followers. The bodies of the dead, including that of al-usayn, were then mutilated, only adding to the consternation of later generations of Shītes.

Remember the challenge of Mubahalah – “come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people” Surah 3:61. Husayn was one of those four who stood with Muh

ammad in the challenge of Mubahalah.

Summary and Conclusion:

The challenge of Mubahalah was issued in the year 10.A.H by Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, along with Fatima, Ali, Hasan and Husayn. In the year 11 A.H. both Muhammad and his daughter died. Later, Ali, Hasan and Husayn were murdered by other Muslims.  It was Muhammad who challenged the Christians for the curse prayers. As per Islamic scholars, those who support lie must die approximately within a year, according to Muslim scholars. Muhammad died approximately within a year proving that he was not a true prophet of true God. His family, Fatima, Ali, Hasan and Husayn had terrible and tragic deaths. It is time for Muslims to seriously rethink on these issues.

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  1. Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

    these are the words of jesus christ when he was surrounded by the betrayer Judas and a large crowd came to arrest HIM the night befor he was crucified. It means;

    those who use cunning tricks will be preished with that cunning tricks. those who use sword to spread their beliefs will be perished by swords. those who create violence to spread their faith they will end up in violence. thats why the curse came upon the prophet himself. not only the prophet but also his counted family. what a great tragedy is it. if we see the initial days of the islamic movement after mohammed death there is lot of violence,confusion.

    muslim brothers need to think instead of read and remember the suras from koran number of times. like brahmin “mantras” in INDIA they spell but they dont know what they are saying. muslims also do. really i pity. i pray the almighty that lord please give them to understand you through your beloved one and only SON JESUS CHRIST.

  2. How did the “seal of all the prophets” die? (The Holy Prophet, peace be upon him, passed away Monday 12 Rabi-ul-Awwal 63 Years 11 AH 7 June 632 AD)

    Please quote only from authentic Islamic texts.

  3. Well Done Br. Jerry Thomas.

    Very Good Expository.

  4. they never think that who is the TRUE GOD and who was muhammad. according to Bible, we know that muhammad was a false prophet. once again you proved it with the help of their authentic texts. thanks Jerry uncle, and hearty congrads. may our GOD help you to continue these type of works… :)

  5. How funny?

    I have to pray for you because your article did increase my faith “may ALLAH quid you to the straight path” but note me points

    1.the meaning of the Arabic word MUTASHABIHAT in Sura 3:7 is “Open to more than one translation” it is derived from the word “SHIBH” means “resemblance”

    what surprise most was that you proved to us that you are among those described by ALLAH in the verse let me cite it again read it twice and think deeply about it

    “it is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad) the Book (Quran): In it are verses that serves as basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are UNSPECIFIC (stated in such a way that they are open to more than one translation). But those in whose hearts is a disease (DEVIATION from the truth) FOLLOW the part thereof that is UNSPECIFIC, seeking DISCORD, and seeking interpretation (to SUSTAIN THEM), but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah(that is why he ordered his prophet to explain what he means by it). And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:” and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.”

    2. agreed some part of the Quran are unspecific, my Question is why was jesus speaking figuratively? John 16:25 “I have spoken of these matters in figures of speech, but soon I will stop speaking figuratively and will tell you plainly all about the Father.

    3. your are good in giving references but i was surprised when you just said “However, anyone who has read the Holy Bible can understand that no true Christian can ever participate in a curse prayer like this. The Holy Bible does not allow such curse prayers and hence that could be the reason for their refusal.” and left us in darkness without given reference from your Bible.

    4. i don’t know what point you are trying to make becouse the summery of your story is

    > Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) Challanged christians of Najrah to do Mubahala 10th year after hijra but they refuse and they did’nt give evidence from their Bible for the refusal.

    > He died 11th year after hijrah.

    > Fatima (RA) died 6 month after him as he said that she will be the first member of his household to die after him.

    > other members died some decades after him so whats the big deal about it

    [Quran 3:144] Muhammad was no more than a messenger like the messengers that passed before him. When he die or get killed, would you turn back on your heels(Disbelieve)? Anyone who turns back on his heels, does not hurt ALLAH in the least. GOD rewards those who are appreciative.

    [Quran 21:34] We never decreed immortality for anyone before you; if you die, are they immortal?

    So where are the Christians of Najrah???

    • If I am a fake I can write anything in my book.

      So if the Quran calls mohammad even next to God, it means nothing. mohammad simply lacked evidence that he was a prophet. He has zero evidence all muslims can show is conjecture.

    • You quoted all that about Allan saying the book has unspecified parts that are for evil men not you. So why did allahs prophet Muhammad not know that. How did he not say that right away when Christians challenged him. Thanks for more proof that Muhammad was a false prophet. Although I knew that from his revelations. When he was visited by a Deamon not an angel. God bless. Do your research and not just what is shoved down your throat from Islam.

  6. Entire Article can be debunked if we the dates are changed.

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 9 AH

    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 10 AH

    http://www.islamic-world.net/islamic-state/arab_at_saw.htm

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 11 AH

    http://www.itsislam.net/articles/life_of_Prophet_Muhammad.asp

    So…….Your Article is simply debunked by a 17 year boy!!

    Regarding Fatima Death Date is also an approximate and not very Accurate…….it is said that 6 months after Prophet Muhammed Passed away…….so looking at different Dates above can even change that death date too…..

    Regarding other Death incidents…..Its nothing….See what your Bible says about Prophets…..

    “34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. “

    Matthew 23:34

    Even Zechariah was killed by Jews…..(most probably by a Sword like HOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ALI(RA))

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    What more to mention your GOD was even killed by Jews……..

    “15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone”

    1 Thessalonians 2:15

    So only death of Prophet and Fatima was relevant to topic others were just red herring……….others were just mentioning that so and so people died!!……….Nothing more!!

  7. Entire Article can be debunked if we the dates are changed.

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 9 AH

    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 10 AH

    http://www.islamic-world.net/islamic-state/arab_at_saw.htm

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 11 AH

    http://www.itsislam.net/articles/life_of_Prophet_Muhammad.asp

    So…….Your Article is simply debunked by a 17 year boy!!

    Regarding Fatima Death Date is also an approximate and not very Accurate…….it is said that 6 months after Prophet Muhammed Passed away…….so looking at different Dates above can even change that death date too…..

    Regarding other Death incidents…..Its nothing….See what your Bible says about Prophets…..

    “34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. “

    Matthew 23:34

    Even Zechariah was killed by Jews…..(most probably by a Sword like HOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ALI(RA))

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    What more to mention your GOD was even killed by Jews……..

    “15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone”

    1 Thessalonians 2:15

    So only death of Prophet and Fatima was relevant to topic others were just red herring……….others were just mentioning that so and so people died!!……….Nothing more!!

  8. Entire Article can be debunked if we the dates are changed.

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 9 AH

    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 10 AH

    http://www.islamic-world.net/islamic-state/arab_at_saw.htm

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 11 AH

    http://www.itsislam.net/articles/life_of_Prophet_Muhammad.asp

    So…….Your Article is simply debunked by a 17 year boy!!

    Regarding Fatima Death Date is also an approximate and not very Accurate…….it is said that 6 months after Prophet Muhammed Passed away…….so looking at different Dates above can even change that death date too…..

    Regarding other Death incidents…..Its nothing….See what your Bible says about Prophets…..

    “34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. “

    Matthew 23:34

    Even Zechariah was killed by Jews…..(most probably by a Sword like HOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ALI(RA))

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    What more to mention your GOD was even killed by Jews……..

    “15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone”

    1 Thessalonians 2:15

    So only death of Prophet and Fatima was relevant to topic others were just red herring……….others were just mentioning that so and so people died!!……….Nothing more!!

  9. Entire Article can be debunked if we the dates are changed.

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 9 AH

    http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 10 AH

    http://www.islamic-world.net/islamic-state/arab_at_saw.htm

    Some say Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) died at 11 AH

    http://www.itsislam.net/articles/life_of_Prophet_Muhammad.asp

    So…….Your Article is simply debunked…….NO ONE CAN EXACTLY KNOW THE DATES!!…..Everything is only an Approximate!

    a)Regarding Fatima Death Date is also an approximate and not very Accurate…….it is said that she died about 6 months after Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)Passed away…….

    so looking at different Dates above can even change that death date of fatima too…..

    Regarding other Death incidents…..Its nothing..relevant to topic……Different “righteous person” were Killed by different Methods??…..(Red Herring done by Jerry…

    b)..Ali(RA) died in the 14 AH,that’s what your article says…..but if Ali(RA) died in the year 14AH what does that mean??…….Your Article is Debunked as you wrote “one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY.”…..But Ali survived for about 4 more Years…lol!!

    c)Did Hasan also die in the Year 11A.H as you claim??….No!!….Your Article is again debunked as Hasan Died in the Year 50 A.H(acco. to your Article),Again you digged your own well as the Article says “”one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY.”…..But Husayn survived for about 39 more Years..”

    D)Did Husayn also die in the Year 11A.H as you claim??….No!!….Your Article is again debunked as Husayn Died in the Year 61 A.H(acco. to your wikipedia),Again you digged your own well as the Article says “”one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY.”…..But husayn survived for about 50 more Years..”

    Regarding the method how they were

    ————————————

    Killed…..Its nothing….See what your Bible says about…

    –.Death of some WISE MEN AND TEACHERS AND EVEN PROPHETS

    “34Therefore I am sending you prophets and WISE MEN and TEACHERS. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. “

    Matthew 23:34

    Even Zechariah was killed by Jews…..(most probably by a Sword like HOW YOU MENTIONED ABOUT ALI(RA))

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you MURDERED between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    “35And so upon you will come all the RIGHTEOUS BLOOD that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    What more to mention your GOD was even killed by Jews……..

    “15 who KILLED the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to everyone”

    1 Thessalonians 2:15

    CONCLUSION:-

    So only death of Prophet and Fatima was relevant to topic others were just red herring……….others were just mentioning that so and so people died!!……….Nothing more!!………The Dates have high possibility of changes!!…and the person a-b-c-d did not die within the first Anniversary!!

  10. 1) This article stands as it is if Muhammad would have died by 11 AH. If Muhammad died by 9 AH, then Muballah would have happened immediately before that as Muballah cannot take place after that, which strengthens this article. If Muhammad died by 10 AH, again he died immediately after Muballah. If he died in 11 AH, he died within one year. Either way, putting the dates to 9 AH or 10 AH rather an 11 AH as this article mentions only strengthens the case rather than weakening it.

    2) Again, dying within one year, as this article clearly notes is a scholarly Muslim opinion from experience. It at the best needs to be only approximate.

    3) Ali, Hussien and Hassan is relevant as none of them had a natural death.

    4) Lord Jesus Christ died has He predicted and rose again as He predicted showing that He is God who has authority over His Life. Muhammad died against his implicit prediction proving even in his death that he was a false prophet.

  11. Bible needs the Quran, I mean we want support to the Quran or the Christians? who is Allah?

    Is Not Bible God,He Is a Bel god. yes r No

  12. With the Name of Allah the beneficent and merciful,

    Well, You have tried to debunk prophet of islam with mubahalah incident. First of all, who said, mubahalah false person will die in one year. You said, As per Islamic scholars, Mubahala person will die within one year. Show me a single quranic verse or hadith stating, mubahala person will die within one year. From which source, you have taken this statement.

    Furthermore, There was no mubahala happened. The christian missionaries came and were absconded without facing the mubahala. Prophet Muhammed was calling for mubahala and christian missonaries didnot accepted it and went away. Where is the mubahala picture came? Moreover, Prophet Mohammed said, daughter fathima will die after 6months from this death. She also died as per the words of Prophet. This is an authentic hadith source. During the time of islam 1425 years ago, its common to see muslims, dying in war, killed by enemies of islam, even Caliphate Omar, great personalities of makkah and madina were killed. Its so stupid to quote way of deaths of prophets family and connecting this with meaningless mubahala incident. If this is the case, the jews have killed number of prophets came before your Lord Jesus christ. Do you mean to say that prophets are liars????

    AS per your belief, jesus was died for the sins of human beings. If this statement is true, he should have come willingly, and died for the entire world. On the Contrary,he was running and hiding here and there also tried to hide from jews and at last, was caught by jews and tragically whipped off, beaten like anything and nailed on body and crucified along with two theives. As per your belief, he died on the cross very in a great shame. Do you mean to say that, since jesus was tragically put to death by jews, can you say that he is a cheat or False person, How do you interprete this??????? Does this make sense… Dont follow Double standards in interpertations.

  13. :grin :grin :grin

    First of All,

    THE ARTICLE SAYS:-

    “However, anyone who has read the Holy Bible can understand that no true Christian can ever participate in a curse prayer like this. The Holy Bible does not allow such curse prayers and hence that could be the reason for their refusal. “

    MY RESPONSE:-

    Oh Really??…No dude…..If your God can take life of a Fig Tree by Cursing it according (Matthew 21:18-22),then what’s Wrong with it??

    Even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with this at all. They are just too desperate to find any arguments against our beloved Prophet. There is even no point for me to try to justify having some one invoking the curse of God on his enemies.

    Lets see what Paul said though…

    1 Corinthians 16:22

    “If anyone does not love the Lord—a curse be on him. Come, O Lord!”

    So Paul even invoked a curse on those who don’t love the Lord. Lets see Christians condemning Paul now…..Can you create a Paragraph to condemn Paul?

    Person Wrote:-

    1) This article stands as it is if Muhammad would have died by 11 AH.

    MY RESPONSE:-

    Yes,This Article stands ONLY if Muhammed PBUH died at 11 AH….because as the Article says “…..What is known by experience is that one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY.”

    If Prophet died after Two Years and his Family Members Died After Decades what’s so Big Deal about that/??

    Person wrote:-

    If Muhammad died by 9 AH, then Muballah would have happened immediately before that as Muballah cannot take place after that, which strengthens this article.

    MY RESPONSE:-

    It is said that Mubahala happened at 10 H (acco. to Article)then that would mean Prophet had already passed away before the Challenge as i showed you a link telling Prophet passed away at 9 AH(www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html )!!…..So There is a difference of Opinion on the Dates!!……..So how can you SAY prophet Died IMMEDIATELY AFTER CHALLENGE!!

    Its is also said by the Article that “Islamic sources inform us that Christians refused to participate in Mubahalah. Islamic scholars assume the Christians were AFRAID TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE due to the realization that Muhammad was a true prophet.”

    So??….If they did not Accept the Challenge then whats so Big Deal about that??…..If they would have accepted the challenge then the Article has some weight else nothing!!

    PERSON WROTE:-

    2) Again, dying within one year, as this article clearly notes is a scholarly Muslim opinion from experience. It at the best needs to be only approximate.

    MY RESPONSE:-The website he quoted is basically a Shia Website(http://www.al-islam.org)…….If i say “Approximately 8:00 Pm”…it can be 9 Pm or even 10 Pm….

    What is the meaning of “Approximate”?

    Approximate2:- Near correctness; nearly exact; NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE; as, approximate results or values.

    (http://ardictionary.com/Approximate/7912)

    So why should you make an Article which deals with “NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE” topics….?

    Person Said:-

    3) Ali, Hussien and Hassan is relevant as none of them had a natural death.

    My response:-

    Its irrelevant to the Topic!!……..What is the problem if they did not have a Natural Death??…Read Your Bible!!

    –.Death of some WISE MEN AND TEACHERS AND EVEN PROPHETS

    “34Therefore I am sending you PROPHETS and WISE MEN(such as Ali,Husayn and Hassan) and TEACHERS. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. ”

    (Matthew 23:34)

    yes there are Prophets and Wise men (such as Ali,Husayn and Hassan)whom the People will Kill….does that Question anything?/…No…Then Why Double standard!!

    “35And so upon you will come all the RIGHTEOUS BLOOD that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes,many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    Read about Zechariah…Is he a Righteous Person?

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you MURDERED between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    Zechariah was Murdered!!……Just like you mentioned about Ali……is that also “A TRAGETIC DEATH”???

  14. :grin :grin :grin

    First of All,

    THE ARTICLE SAYS:-

    “However, anyone who has read the Holy Bible can understand that no true Christian can ever participate in a curse prayer like this. The Holy Bible does not allow such curse prayers and hence that could be the reason for their refusal. “

    MY RESPONSE:-

    Oh Really??…No dude…..If your God can take life of a Fig Tree by Cursing it according (Matthew 21:18-22),then what’s Wrong with it??

    Even though there is absolutely nothing wrong with this at all. They are just too desperate to find any arguments against our beloved Prophet. There is even no point for me to try to justify having some one invoking the curse of God on his enemies.

    Lets see what Paul said though…

    1 Corinthians 16:22

    “If anyone does not love the Lord—a curse be on him. Come, O Lord!”

    So Paul even invoked a curse on those who don’t love the Lord. Lets see Christians condemning Paul now…..Can you create a Paragraph to condemn Paul?

    Person Wrote:-

    1) This article stands as it is if Muhammad would have died by 11 AH.

    MY RESPONSE:-

    Yes,This Article stands ONLY if Muhammed PBUH died at 11 AH….because as the Article says “…..What is known by experience is that one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY.”

    If Prophet died after Two Years and his Family Members Died After Decades what’s so Big Deal about that/??

    Person wrote:-

    If Muhammad died by 9 AH, then Muballah would have happened immediately before that as Muballah cannot take place after that, which strengthens this article.

    MY RESPONSE:-

    It is said that Mubahala happened at 10 H (acco. to Article)then that would mean Prophet had already passed away before the Challenge as i showed you a link telling Prophet passed away at 9 AH(www.kinghussein.gov.jo/prophet_muhammad.html )!!…..So There is a difference of Opinion on the Dates!!……..So how can you SAY prophet Died IMMEDIATELY AFTER CHALLENGE!!

    Its is also said by the Article that “Islamic sources inform us that Christians refused to participate in Mubahalah. Islamic scholars assume the Christians were AFRAID TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE due to the realization that Muhammad was a true prophet.”

    So??….If they did not Accept the Challenge then whats so Big Deal about that??…..If they would have accepted the challenge then the Article has some weight else nothing!!

    PERSON WROTE:-

    2) Again, dying within one year, as this article clearly notes is a scholarly Muslim opinion from experience. It at the best needs to be only approximate.

    MY RESPONSE:-The website he quoted is basically a Shia Website(http://www.al-islam.org)…….If i say “Approximately 8:00 Pm”…it can be 9 Pm or even 10 Pm….

    What is the meaning of “Approximate”?

    Approximate2:- Near correctness; nearly exact; NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE; as, approximate results or values.

    (http://ardictionary.com/Approximate/7912)

    So why should you make an Article which deals with “NOT PERFECTLY ACCURATE” topics….?

    Person Said:-

    3) Ali, Hussien and Hassan is relevant as none of them had a natural death.

    My response:-

    Its irrelevant to the Topic!!……..What is the problem if they did not have a Natural Death??…Read Your Bible!!

    –.Death of some WISE MEN AND TEACHERS AND EVEN PROPHETS

    “34Therefore I am sending you PROPHETS and WISE MEN(such as Ali,Husayn and Hassan) and TEACHERS. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. ”

    (Matthew 23:34)

    yes there are Prophets and Wise men (such as Ali,Husayn and Hassan)whom the People will Kill….does that Question anything?/…No…Then Why Double standard!!

    “35And so upon you will come all the RIGHTEOUS BLOOD that has been shed on earth,………..”

    Matthew 23:35

    Yes,many Righteous Blood have been shed on earth….

    Read about Zechariah…Is he a Righteous Person?

    “35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you MURDERED between the temple and the altar.”

    Matthew 23:35

    Zechariah was Murdered!!……Just like you mentioned about Ali……is that also “A TRAGETIC DEATH”???

  15. :grin :grin :grin

    Good try again but it does not work here. Let us see the verse again:

    Mubahalah (curse prayers) in the following Quranic verse:

    Surah 3: 61 “But whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women and our near people and your near people, then let us be earnest in prayer, and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars.”

    Where does Apostle Paul or Lord Jesus Christ curse ‘our sons your sons, our women, your women, our near people your near people. The best of the example you could provide was only those indulge in false doctrines.

    Further, the date argument still does not hold any water. In fact, if you want it to extend then Quran only gives the curse and date.

    Muhammad died of poison

    Fatima died of being hit

    Ali murdered

    Hussein and Hassan murdered

    It appears that none of them had natural death- strangely all of them were identified in the curse prayer.

    So, you example of “curse prayer” from the Holy Bible does not fit the criteria of Quran.

    Your approximate dates may strongly work against you.

  16. Greetings dear Christians

    The simplest response to this bogus article is that THE MUBAHALA NEVER HAPPENED. The hadith clearly stated that Christians backed out. So there was no INVOKING of the curse at all. Thus, the death of any of the Prophet and his companions cannot be connected with Mubahala.

    Therefore, the whole article is proved false.

    And you said

    “one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its FIRST ANNIVERSARY”

    Proof?? Yet using COMMON SENSE,the following Questions arise

    Ali R.A died in the year 14 A.H

    Hassan R.A died in the year 50A.H

    You have not used common sense. Have you? Do you want to prove that the limit can go up to 40 years?

    So the onus is now on you to prove your Jesus as a true Prophet according to the Old Testament because, it says ‘cursed be he that hangs on a tree’. If the Jews succeeded in killing Jesus then Jesus is DISPROVED to be the Messiah as per the Bible.

    The Bible also hints at the procedure of cursing

    Num 5:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

    Num 5:12 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, If any man’s wife go aside, and commit a trespass against him,

    Num 5:13 And a …man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner;

    Num 5:14 And the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be defiled: or if the spirit of jealousy come upon him, and he be jealous of his wife, and she be not defiled:

    Num 5:15 Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance.

    Num 5:16 And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the LORD:

    Num 5:17 And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water:

    Num 5:18 And the priest shall set the woman before the LORD, and uncover the woman’s head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse:

    Num 5:19 And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse:

    Num 5:20 But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband:

    Num 5:21 Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell;

    Num 5:22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

    Num 5:23 And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water:

    Num 5:24 And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter.

    Num 5:25 Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman’s hand, and shall wave the offering before the LORD, and offer it upon the altar:

    Num 5:26 And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water.

    Num 5:27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

    Num 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.

    Num 5:29 This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled;

    Num 5:30 Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the LORD, and the priest shall execute upon her all this law.

    Num 5:31 Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.

    Why the BITTER WATER TEST for adultery by cursing? If you need to learn the Bible you can enroll in our classes on Facebook.

    Better luck next time. cheers :)

  17. Don’t get agitated. Read the article carefully as well you authoritative books. Those who take part in this curse die within one year is not an assumption of the author but that is what your scholar Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in his voluminous Fath ul-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari wrote.

    It seems that in order to avoid the obvious conclusion you got angry and accused the author of this article making this comment.

    It seems that we need to teach you some lessons in Quran and its interpretation,

    Second, if it is a non-event, why are certain sections of Muslims celebrating this event? Don’t they think that it was successful?

    Now, Christ took our curse to make us blessed as it was already propheized in the book of Isaiah proving once again that Lord Jesus Christ is God as it is mentioned in the books of the prophets.

    Coming to the bitter water test of the adultery. It is a divine judgement given in the Old Testament. The fact that you are raising it in New Testament itself shows that you are clueless about the Holy Bible.

    If it was applicable today, Ayesha, your prophet’s child wife and your mother, when she was accused of adultery, it could have been done. Now, another point related to your Ayesha’s adultery charge. Your prophet who has the habit of getting revelations at every and now then, why did he wait for one month before he got a ‘revelation’ to clear of her charges? Simple. he wanted to ensure that she was not pregnant. What a false prophet he was.

    If you want to learn more about your false prophet, his family, we will teach you.

  18. I am not agitated sir. I have read the article CAREFULLY and that is y I have been able punch holes into it by the help of Allah.

    ——Those who take part in this curse die within one year is not an assumption of the author but that is what your scholar Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani in his voluminous Fath ul-Bari fi Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari wrote. ——

    Ibn Hajar’s words are irrelevant here. The question is Where was the curse INVOKED? Only an invitation was extended by the Prophet (pbuh) which the Christians declined. When the Mubahala did not happen how can you link the death of the Prophet (pbuh) with it? That would be fallacious.

    ——It seems that in order to avoid the obvious conclusion you got angry and accused the author of this article making this comment.——

    I am not angry at all. Seems like you are dreaming.

    ——It seems that we need to teach you some lessons in Quran and its interpretation,——

    So far, I have shown you why you cannot teach me. You are not objective.

    ——Second, if it is a non-event, why are certain sections of Muslims celebrating this event? Don’t they think that it was successful? ——

    I did not say it is a non-event. I said (which is true by the way) that the Mubahala challenge as only extended by the Prophet (pbuh) and the Christians declined. The success lies in the fact that Christians did not have the guts to accept this challenge and it implies the truthfulness of the Prophet (pbuh). But get this thing into your head. The MUBAHALA did not materialze as the Christians declined to do so. Therein lies the success of the Noble Prophet (pbuh).

    ——Now, Christ took our curse to make us blessed as it was already propheized in the book of Isaiah proving once again that Lord Jesus Christ is God as it is mentioned in the books of the prophets. ——

    As per yur own admission Christ is cursed. Thank you. Therefore, a false Prophet according to the standards of the OT.

    ——Coming to the bitter water test of the adultery. It is a divine judgement given in the Old Testament. The fact that you are raising it in New Testament itself shows that you are clueless about the Holy Bible. ——

    I am not raising it in the new testament. Seems like your english is weak. I am showing you cursing to prove the innocence of guilt of someone is not alien to the Bible as you were falsely preaching in this article.

    ——If it was applicable today, Ayesha, your prophet’s child wife and your mother, when she was accused of adultery, it could have been done. Now, another point related to your Ayesha’s adultery charge. Your prophet who has the habit of getting revelations at every and now then, why did he wait for one month before he got a ‘revelation’ to clear of her charges? Simple. he wanted to ensure that she was not pregnant. What a false prophet he was. ——

    Why should we do the Bitter water test? It did not apply to the Muslims. I am applying it to you as you believe in the Bible. It is not any commandment for us. So your argument is invalid. The Prophet was nto in a habit of getting revelations. He did what all courts would do. So he is true Prophet. We do not believe in useless bitter water tests. All know they are false and degrading the women. Only women were to undergo the test not males. Again showing the bias of the Bible towards women.

    ——If you want to learn more about your false prophet, his family, we will teach you.——

    What will you teach me when you whole article is debunked.

  19. So, you are agreeing that this is not a non-event. Glad about that. According to you, the success is that Christians did not accept the invitation, therefore Muhammad was true. That is an argument from silence which does not have any merit. Christians could have rejected the invitations for a number of reasons as the author of this article points out. While the Christians certainly did not invoke the curse prayer, Muhammad did set out for this curse prayer with Fatima, Ali, Hassan and Hussein. (a) Muhammad did pronounce the challenge (b) Muhammad did set out for the curse prayer (c) Muhammad did make it a standing instruction on the Muslim community. Muslims celebrate it because it is like winning an election ‘uncontested’. If there is only one candidate in the contest field, that candidate is considered as won without the actual election being held. Same principle applies here. Muhammad declared his candidature, came with his family (minus the adultery charged Ayesha etc), and there was no opposition. It would be considered as an election held because Muhammad pronounced it. Unfortunately, Muhammad died within one year. Learn some basic logic before you start arguing.

  20. I said the event did not happen. The Prophet did set out but the Christians were not there and the curse was not invoked. The hadiths informs us of the words spoken by those Christians also,

    Bukhari :: Book 59 :: Volume 5 :: Hadith 663

    Narrated Hudhaifa:

    Al-‘Aqib and Saiyid, the rulers of Najran, came to Allah’s Apostle with the intention of doing Lian one of them said to the other, “Do not do (this Lian) for, by Allah, if he is a Prophet and we do this Lian, neither we, nor our offspring after us will be successful.” Then both of them said (to the Prophet ), “We will give what you should ask but you should send a trustworthy man with us, and do not send any person with us but an honest one.” The Prophet said, “I will send an honest man who Is really trustworthy.” Then every one of the companions of Allah’s Apostle wished to be that one. Then the Prophet said, “Get up, O Abu ‘Ubaida bin Al-Jarrah.” When he got up, Allah’s Apostle said, “This is the Trustworthy man of this (Muslim) nation.”

    According to this hadith Christians knew that they would get the curse as they knew that the Prophet was true. So your argument is invalid.

    The problems with your article I have already pointed out are that Ali (ra) died in 40 Hijri, Hasan in 50 Hijri, Hussain in 61 Hijri. Now if the cursed ones were to die within one year how come they did not die in one year? Thus you argument falls flat. The whole article is just nonsense.

    There is no silence. Of course the Prophet and his family is victorious and not cursed as the Christians backed out.

    Just remove this article now that it has been proved wrong. or you can continue being blind and go to hell.

  21. You have not even attempted to answer the response posted in earlier comment. If a politician declares his candidature for the election, and if there is no opponent, without an election, the politician would be considered as elected. In other words, it would be considered as if he contested and won the election. Similar, is if a King goes for war- winning without even fighting. The only requirement in this case is not the fight by two parties- but the willingness and the actions expressed by one party. In this case, Mr. Muhammad had not only expressed, he came out with these four. He fits the requirement of having done the curse. The fact that he died within one year questions proves that he is a false prophet by his own standard. Now, the author the article never argued that Ali, Hussien and Hassan died within one year- but unnaturally. In fact, all the five died unnaturally – Muhammad (poision), Faitma (hit by a door by Umar), Ali (brutally murdered), Hussien (brutally murdered) and Hassan (brutally murdered). So, rather than disproving the article, you have added more clarity to this. Thanks!

  22. Seems like you mind is not focused. I did answer each and every point of yours. You, obviously, are in the grip of Satan and therefore cannot see the plain evidence I am giving you. I still pray that you be guided and that you stop deceiving yourself.

    When you said

    Christians could have rejected the invitations for a number of reasons as the author of this article points out.

    I replied by quoting the hadith that Christians acknowledged that the Prophet was true but still did not believe in him, exactly as you are doing. Now you have given the example of election. The example does fit here but in the sense which I said. The Prophet was victorious because the Christians chickened out. If the Christians had participated they would have been destroyed as they themselves said. So either way the Prophet (sws) would have been proved true. For the Mubahala the invoking of the curse was NECESSARY. Not merely coming out. Then EVERY PARTICIPANT of the Mubahala (including children and wives) would have suffered. You claim that the participants of the Mubahala would have died within one year. I disproved it by common sense as not all died within one year. Therefore the Mubahala had not happened. It is plain common sense. The type of death does not prove anything. Good people often face a ruthless death. Consider what happened to John the Baptist. Since the Mubahala did not happen the deaths of the Prophet or the companions cannot be connected to any curse. It is the defect in your brain which makes you think so.

    You are again just deceiving your own self even though I have disproved your article. Better repent early or know your humiliating end on the Day of Judgment.

  23. Now, that you are speaking about being the grip of satan, let us remind you a few things (1) your prophet was under magic spell for sometime during his so-called prophethood (2) he received satanic revelation as recorded by Ibn Ishaq (3)he himself doubted that his initial revelation from satan. Hope you know the sahih hadiths for others. So, if anyone was under the grip of satan, it was your prophet and not us. About Mubalah, let the readers judge now.

    • Dear Sultan and Reply to Sultan,

      I read the whole conversation that happened between you two and being honest, I could only say that the ‘Reply to Sultan’ has tried his best to twist this whole Muhabala thing to set against prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and has miserably failed in doing so. When Sultan puts forth a sound argument saying that, the important thing in Muhabala, the cursing, itself did not happen, the ‘reply to sultan’ tries to pull in some non-fitting examples and eventually bails out miserably and tries to change the topic. And another interesting argument put forth by Sultan is that the except Prophet (pbuh), none of the other family members died within a year which actually destroys ‘reply to sultan’s case, as ‘reply to sultan’ himself says that Muhammad (pbuh) had brought some of his family members also to the Muhabala, and we can understand that, since the other family members who came there to attend the Muhabala didn’t die within a year, the Muhabala cannot be the reason for the death of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). And also we know that type of death has got nothing to do with the Muhabala which again completely wipes out ‘reply to sultan’s case and this twisted article. And also I personally feel that the ‘reply to Sultan’ has understood the fallacy of this article perfectly, but I am not sure why he chooses to deceive himself by not accepting it.

      So, rather than trying to defame the true way of God, which is Islam, with the help of stupid articles such as this, let’s hope that Jerry would find some other useful things to spend his quality (?) time or would keep his mind in place when dealing with Islamic things.

  24. Your whole article rests on Fath-ul-Bari’s words “What is known by experience is that one who takes part in Mubahala to support falsehood will not survive its first anniversary.” Unfortunately, you have been keen to quote but have committed criminal negligence by quoting out of context. There are two types of ‘Mubahala’ – one that is performed by the Prophet (Peace be upon him) himself and the other by ordinary Muslims. If Mubahala were performed by the Prophet (Peace be upon him) the outcome would be instantaneous and the whole chapter closed with the result being the debunking of false Christian myths. The words you have quote from Fath-ul-Bari are regarding ordinary Muslims. If an ordinay Muslim conducts this activity, the experience has been that the negative consequences shall be borne in an year’s time by the liar.

  25. If Jerry or any other christian has who mixed up lies with their desires in this conversation. They shall be doomed by the creator of the Universe!

  26. Jesus said, show you left cheek when some body hit you. This jesus word clearly saying don’t do violence against violence but why muhammed and his follower do violence. No jesus and disciples did violence. Did muhammed read injil or did muhammed time injil have no jesus non violence.

  27. LOOKS LIKE THE AUTHOR IS VERY IMMATURE WRITER. TRIES TO CONVICE WITH LIES.
    HE NEEDS TO DO A LOT OS RESEARCH . ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN BELIEF JESUS WAS GIVEN MUCH MORE BRUTUL AND BLOODFULL AND NAILFUL CRUCIFICATION WHICH LOOKS REALLY “TRAGIC”. AND NO ONE CAME TO JESUS SUPPORT THEN.
    SO CALLED SON OF GOD. SO WHO IS THE LOSER THEN . “jeRRY THE MOUSE”

    • Unlike Mohd and his family in Islam, Jesus in Christianity did NOT die … due to any curse prayer, his war criminal or his prophecy.

      But, by the Bible, Jesus clearly knew his mission and his death in advance, and He died due to … blasphemer (b/c Jesus exposed He is the Son of God and God YHWH).

      Stop to dream many virgins in heaven. OK?

    • He suffered the most brutal death… for your sins… while your so-called prophets robbed and like to have sex with slave girls… think about it

  28. Mr Abdullah – Are you Joking? According To The Law Of God We do not Consider Quran to Validate our Belief but it is Torah & Old Testament. The Book Propheciesed The Event In Clear Details That Messiah Will go through the Punishment Which is Identical To Death On the Cross because During the Time Of prophecy Roman Cross Was Not Even Heard Of.” I can Understand your case because Your Prophet Never really Propheciesed which is Important to Qualify as a Prophet.

  29. Christians are not interested to curse people….. Bless those who curse you… Let God do the judgment… Muhammad was a false prophet…. Muslims I pity you

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